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World champion waterman Kai Lenny joins The Plug w/ Justin Jay to break down what it really takes to be a big wave surfer. From the raw danger and financial sacrifices to the deep passion that drives athletes to chase waves at Mavericks, Nazare, and Jaws—Kai explains why surfers like Laird Hamilton, Billy Kemper, and Nathan Florence each embody unique personalities in the lineup.
He reveals why big wave surfers aren’t “born” but “made,” and why the ones who last aren’t chasing fame or money—they’re chasing love for the ocean. If you’ve ever wondered what fuels the world’s most daring surfers, this conversation goes beyond the hype and into the heart of surf culture.

00:00 Intro — Big Wave Surfers Aren’t Born, They’re Made
00:26 Drive & Mindset — “How bad do you want it?” (hunt & anticipation)
00:55 Lineup Personalities — Billy Kemper, Laird & Nathan Florence
01:17 Love vs Risk — Dangerous, life-threatening, and why you must love it
01:47 Money Reality — Sponsors, struggle, and making it happen
02:16 Pure Passion — Mavericks, Nazare & surfing for the love, not fame

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